As a free human being and in full support of the Constitution of the United States of America, for the purpose of securing God-given rights for myself, my family, my children and future generations, be it known to all that in regard to
(1)a mandate to purchase health insurance or participate in a government-run plan,
(2)regulatory and taxation schemes designed to reduce carbon dioxide emissions, (3)further infringements of the right to keep and bear arms or
(4)Any sanctioned U.N. Treaty this current administration shall pledge to support, sign or ratify:
I will not abide by this law
I will not recognize this law
I will openly oppose this law
I will not pay the associated taxes within this law
I will not pay the fines associated with this law
I will not go to jail
I will come to the aid of any other patriot whom also pledges.
So I pledge without hesitation and with faith. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, I mutually pledge to my fellow patriots my life, my fortune, and my sacred Honor.
Signed __________________________________ Date _________
Thanks for setting up the site and posting this.
I’m completely onboard, and looking forward to being there. I WANT the government to know I’m armed. I believe the current “government” are proving why the original framers of the Constitution included the 2nd Amendment. To allow the people to overthrow a tyrannical government, if needed as a last resort.
I think we’ve needed to do this for a long time. Not just because of the current administration but because of the last 40 years. I’m in CA. and will do my best to hop across the country to be there……Matt III
Count me in it is time we stand up to these traitors and let them know we are not going to take their crap and the will be tried for treason
I’ll be there with my brothers so we can peacefully remind these clowns in D.C. that WE are their employers and THEY are the hired help.
I was ready and willing to sign the above petition until I read, ” with a firm reliance on the protection of divine providence “. I am unable to sign because I have no such “reliance” on any such “divine providence”. Neither did men such as Thomas Paine! Why must you add such a divisive line to the pledge?
The pledge is taken from the Alarm and Muster site. If you agree with all of it except that part, then make a pledge without it, print it, sign it, distribute it, etc. Getting Constitutionalists/ libertarians together on something like this is a real cat hearding effort, and we’re not going to agree on every single thing. Here’s what I’ll do: I’ll repost it with that part taken out so you can sign it. Fair enough?
Steven:
Uh, sorry, I forgot to use the ‘reply’ function properly.
You can see my reply below. I hope this can open up any dialogue that would be helpful.
While firm in my beliefs, I am not such a starry eyed dreamer to think that all Patriots need to have the exact same set of beliefs religiously speaking, in order to have united actions.
But instead of just stereotyping each other, for the profit of our movement, let us have constructive dialogue.
For example, we need some core foundational Principles around which to rally, what are they ? How are they rooted in history & proven ? What men embodied them, their character showing their worth, providing a ‘compass heading’ to others ?
The Founding Fathers had core foundational beliefs – where can we best find them expressed ?
The Pledge of Resistance is a good starting ‘creed’, that can lead us to discover much, much more.
David Alan
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Steven:
As a Brother Patriot, may I urge you to re-read the Declaration of Independence, where it constantly refers to God & His Laws & Providence as support for their action to ‘assume the separate & equal station to which the Law’s of Nature & Nature’s God entitles them….” ?
They pledged thus, giving the Fundamental Principles of Liberty & connecting them to the need for all leaders of men to respect the fact that they, kings & presidents, were not ‘super men’ but were also subject to God, and thus prevented from becoming Tyrants, by His Law.
The phrase “Laws of Nature & Nature’s God” refer to Natural Law (general revelation) and Biblical Law (special revelation).
[Even Thomas Paine was conversant with Natural Law.....]
They end the Declaration saying…” and for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance upon Divine Providence, we mutually pledge our lives, our fortunes & our sacred Honor.
So, it’s no surprise that many, many Patriots and especially Christian Patriots like me see the importance of affirming the Principles that guided men like them.
I know you may have seen clueless Christians who don’t give a fig about Liberty, who are themselves deluded by ‘Statism’. This is all too common & tragic.
But many are not fooled, and are re-discovering that if we claim Jesus Christ as LORD, whose stated purpose was to ‘set at Liberty those who are bound’ (Luke, chapter 1), then we must certainly be opposed to statist tyranny, which is noting other than the State trying to be the agent of secular salvation.
Anyhow, I am happy to work alongside any Patriot who opposes State tyranny, and not take offense at overt athiesm, as long as you can abide my explicit Christian testimony.
Just keep in mind the conversation that Benjamin Franklin had with Thomas Paine, when he had published one of his works which attacked Christianity. Franklin told him it was most unwise to do so.
He said that to be for Liberty in the political sense, but to attack the foundation of it in Christianity, was akin to someone ‘beating their mother’.
Can you imagine a Patriot that would ‘beat his mother’ or cheer those who do ?
God bless you & all the Patriots,
David Alan
Texas Republic
In furtherance of the goal of Restoring the Constitution, I’d like to recommend a course on the Principles of the Constitution, one that I’ve both taken & give as a volunteer instructor.
It’s called “Institute on the Constitution” and is located at http://www.IOTConline.com
Taught by noted Alabama Law Professor Colonel John Eidsmoe, it exhaustively examines the text of the Declaration & Constitution and the original intent of the Founding Fathers.
There is an outstanding video lecture on ‘Constitutional Homeland Security: a Call to Revitalize the Militia of the Several States’, that is worth it’s weight in gold. [I've studied 2nd Amendment issues for years, and the teacher, Dr. Edwin Vieira, taught things I'd never heard anywhere else.]
The course can be taken online or the DVD & teaching set ordered to teach classes locally.
I have a few comp copies of these I can offer to help further the cause.
They’re not the complete course & all associated material, but they are the video lectures in DVD format. Limited number, so first come, first served.
[Please first visit the course site, http://www.IOTConline.com and see if what is there is of interest to you, then email me if so.]
Email to: Psalm2@safe-mail.net Put IOTC DVD OFFER in the subject line, please.
Godspeed to you all,
David Alan
David, thank you for your reply to my question. I’m not trying to make trouble or anything like that. I just don’t like when people expect me to bow to their beliefs. It doesn’t matter to me if most of the founding fathers were believers or not. They were men of their time and did not know any other alternative, besides, they had every right to believe what they wanted to. I am glad you were not “offended by my overt Atheism”. I assure you, I am not offended by
your overt belief in a deity.
I don’t understand why people can’t just separate their politics from their religion. Why do they say that this country was founded on christian principles? Freedom, decency, patriotism, love of fellow man, sacrifice, courage, honor, putting others first, just to name a few. These things are only capable of being realized by christians? These are things ALL men are capable of and sought after by them, not just christians.
Let me leave you with a few words by a man I’m sure we both admire and respect;
” As the government of the United States is not in any way founded on the christian religion”…. John Adams- Treaty of Tripoli, article 11
Hi Steven:
I just read a great article on http://www.LewRockwell.com, by columnist Paul Craig Roberts on the connection between Christianity & why our liberties are safeguarded by it:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts277.html
The importance & worth of the individual, and their God-derived rights are not fully recognized under other systems. This is what makes America unique.
Merry CHRISTmas to you & all
David Alan
Hi Steven:
Thank you for your taking the time to dialogue on this matter.
I do understand your position. I think that by taking the time to ‘hash out’ the Principles of Liberty, all will profit.
I think that due to Natural Law, all men understand the need for Virtues such as you cited, and that to a very large degree, they reside in the world, by design.
I’m sure the writings of Thomas Paine affirmed strongly the Natural Law reasoning position.
Seminal writers like John Locke, one of the Founders most oft quoted sources, was a virtual fountain of Natural Law wisdom.
He even wrote an influential article, “On the Reasonableness of Christianity”, read & widely commented on by the Founders.
A friend of mine has a definition of Religion & Politics that, to me, helps answer the question you posed:
“I don’t understand why people can’t separate their politics from their religion ?”
Religion = Our deepest held & most cherished Beliefs.
Politics = The practical application of our deepest held & most cherished beliefs.
If you can see the simple logic of these definitions, then it might be manifest why most or many see the connection of the religious assumptions leading to political assumptions. Make sense ?
Like, for instance, our last President, GW Bush. He opined more than once that his personal mission (using our dollars & lives, btw) was to go to the middle east & impose democracy on the Muslim nations like Iraq, etc.
But this assumption, is totally invalid, and couldn’t possibly be his reason. (it was his rationaile, however, for public consumption, PR reasons). Why ? Because there isn’t a single Muslim majority Democracy on the face of the earth.
For the simple reason that the Muslim worldview knows nothing of the notion of ‘Democracy’ – their religion tells them to merge “Mosque & State’, ergo, they run their societies like their Mosque – their political assumptions inform their political realities.
That’s why I asked how deeply you’ve read the Declaration of Independence. It fairly bleeds Biblical & Natual Law concepts & assumptions. However, a study of the background is helpful.
A postmodern American, with no notion of Biblical or Natural Law reasoning will probably not make sense of the phraseology, “…the Laws of Nature & of Nature’s God..”….not surprising considering they were conditioned to assume America has a secular origin, in government schools.
When I speak with Pastors with seminary degrees & a high level of Scriptural knowledge, and I mention that the Declaration mentions God’s Law, they don’t get it (usually) until we read the text & it is explained, contextually.
For example, the quote you left me with from John Adams, in context, makes sense. Pulled from it’s context, it makes far less sense.
John Adams was writing to assure the Muslim Barbary Pirates with whom the US was negotiating, that the US States were not, in the sense Muslim nations are, to be confused with a specific church. As mentioned above, to the Islamic mind, to attack their nation, is to attack their Mosque. One & the same.
It was a bit of agit-prop, strategically motivated speech, IMHO. Not to deceive the Pirates or lie about America, but to win the peace.
It would be funny if he meant that in a universal sense, in terms of an accurate description of the American character, as he later said:
“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
Patrick Henry observed:
“It is when a people forget God, that Tyrants forge their chains.”
Steven, thank you for the discussion.
Sorry if I went a bit long, these are matters which defy brevity, if depth of understanding is our obejective.
David Alan
I’m in.
Can I modify this petition for the Autism treatment accelerated act aka S 819, and post it to my blog?
Not familiar with that. please explain. How would the pledge go?
The only difference is that there would be two more number
(5) I will support no law in which people would be required to sign a mandetory registry replete with monitoring services irregardless of religion, race, political beliefs, health, age, or mental capabilities.
(6) I will support no law in which a ‘committee’ will choose for me or my children what treatment I or my children shall be ‘allowed’ to have, what educational training I or my children will ‘allowed’ to recieve, or what type of ‘career’ I or my children will be allowed to ‘work’.
Other than Those two ‘new statements’ (which are on the Autism treatment accelerated act) .. the pledge will stay the same.
wait in order for it to be ‘cohesive’ with the original pledge
(5) mandetory registries due to race, religion, health, age, political affialation, mental capabilities, or learning disorders
(6) committee to decide for the patient what treatments they will be allowed to recieve, what educational training they will be allowed to have, what career they will be allowed to work at.
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And I will put the usual notation that on 8/25/09 Senator Tom Udall’s aide verified for me as fact (via using her blackberry) that on S 819 the Autism treatment accelerated act did indeed contain a mandetory registry for every man, woman and child with Autism and Aspergers…
The committee that will choose for the patient (possibly over ruling the wishes of the parent) educational training, and treatments… was put into the bill after 8/25/09.
I can see how one could defy a mandatory registry, but I don’t know what individual citizens could do to defy a committe other than to ignore them. Me, I don’t have a problem with your adding this to the original pledge, but, remember, I’m not the author of the pledge. Someone on the Alarm and Muster boards came up with it, and various versions were tossed around there. here is link:
http://alarmandmuster.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=2964
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